feeling Neglected @ 60Plus
Like a lot of women, friends, family and fellow BH beauties I’m tired of being made to remember my age. I am strong confident and do feel beautiful – sometimes. I love makeup, skincare and body products and I’m willing to spend if I love something that feels great and makes me happy.
I don’t like being ignored in fashion shops because I don’t fit what their image is, I have walked out of stores because I am treated as invisible.
I would love BH to do an event or master class just for the over 50s, showcasing tips and products that can make us feel valued.
My mother who is 80 even had a young girl roll her eyes at her when we were trying to buy ” an old fashioned style mascara with an average easy to manage tube that did nothing but apply a light buildable mascara” within mum’s budget.
Sorry but I really feel neglected and everyone will eventually get a go at being this age.
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5 yrs ago
Lisa359, thanks so much for your post about this beautiful lady! If anyone is interested, here are some articles about her:
https://www.seniorsnews.com.au/news/no-limits-to-creativity-ageing-says-eileen-kramer/3213821/
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5 yrs, 1 mth ago
I’ll have to check out her instagram page, I follow alot of ‘mature age’ models and grey hair stuff as well as colourful hair. I love those lips kats , I’m looking forward to getting more grey in my hair so I can buy a fantastic lipstick in red, it looks so great with grey hair! , I’m not sure if I can look that good in a bright red right now.
I love that post kassalee , it begs the question – ‘how old is old ‘ ?
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5 yrs ago
Lisa359, I believe that any woman can wear red lipstick. Sometimes it`s just a matter of finding the right undertone (warm or cool), or playing around with different eye makeup looks to complement the lipstick. Perhaps you could try a red lip gloss or a semi-sheer lipstick if that makes you feel more comfortable.
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5 yrs, 1 mth ago
I was in a clothes shop the other day and was trying on a jacket and another lady was admiring it when I had to stand in front of the mirror. She asked if she could try one for her and the young assistant more or less informed her it was for a younger type of person. Now the shop I was in, all ages go there.
The other lady looked younger than me and then she goes….but i’m 48 is that old? The young girl who would have been in her late teens said well, the jacket still wouldn’t suit her age. It was then I piped up that I was 61. The look on that young girls face was priceless. In went that lady to get one for her in her size and we both walked out with our jackets 🙂
Not sure if I will get to actually wear it with the high humidity we are still having here.
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5 yrs, 1 mth ago
Ha! Good onya, jatz! I always mention my age in situations like that too, & I find the reactions are very positive! I don`t hold with that “”don`t mention a woman`s age”” philosophy.
Young women are usually shocked because they don`t know what a 50 or 60 year old woman looks like. You (both!) showed her!
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5 yrs, 1 mth ago
I watch lots of makeup reviews, tutorials etc on YouTube. I prefer YouTubers that are professional makeup artists, especially makeup artists that are not very young. I have included links to my favourite YouTubers:
Risa Does Makeup is great if you like a more glamorous makeup look:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVtgrv6KHBNcRxDTys9TCcQ
Hot and Flashy has fantastic foundation reviews for mature skin:
https://www.youtube.com/user/HotandFlashy
Wayne Goss is a fantastic makeup artist in the UK. His videos are short and sweet, but informative:
https://www.youtube.com/user/gossmakeupartist
Stephanie Marie:
If you prefer colourful makeup looks like me, I highly recommend Mel Thompson. She’s very talented:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTLwE0abQlY5f2NElU-q6uQ
Michele Wang specialises in high end makeup reviews. She’s not a makeup artist (as far as I’m aware of), but I appreciate her opinion:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIB0qtyTO6ULzAarlWB1LKg
Emily is a well-respected YouTuber:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtC8m_F7jX2fGOQ3_nomg4g
Lisa J is a talented makeup artist with a background in MAC cosmetics:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY8LkGSO_34lHxujnvATGAw
Elle Leary is a makeup artist and she has an aesthetician background:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCakCPsNUKmz1sUnpsr6GgGg
Lisa Eldridge has an excellent reputation throughout the world:
https://www.youtube.com/user/lisaeldridgedotcom
Pixiwoo have built a huge following. They are based in the UK:
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5 yrs, 1 mth ago
I turn 56 this year. I didn’t take much notice of how my face and skin were ageing until about eight years ago. This was when I started watching skin care presentations with anti-ageing ingredients on TVSN, the home shopping network. Although I learned a lot through the presentations, I became more conscious of how my face was ageing. I bought a magnifying makeup mirror, and this was a rude shock to see the signs of ageing in detail – signs that I was previously unaware of. I remember bursting into tears a few times when I saw photos of very youthful women in the BH forums (when there were more people posting their makeup looks).
Most articles for mature women advise that we tone down our makeup to bland and boring neutral shades. However, I feel that older women can wear any makeup shades that they want. I still wear shimmery eyeshadows, but just on the mobile eyelid. I still wear black eyeliner, but I don’t apply it as heavily as I used to when I was younger. I love wearing bright and bold lipsticks, especially lipsticks in violet shades. So if BH were to conduct a makeup masterclass for mature women, I would probably be very annoyed if they told us to just wear beige eyeshadow and peach lipstick!
When women are younger, we are often told to keep our makeup looks “work appropriate”. When we’re older, we’re told to keep our makeup looks subtle. When are we allowed (by society’s standards) to express our creativity through colour? Why is it that if a woman wears bold or heavy makeup that many criticise her for looking cheap or trashy?
I feel that it is very important that BH has more reviews and trials by mature women. When I first joined BH, I bought lots of products (mainly budget brands) that were given rave reviews. These products disappointed me because they didn’t work on my older dry skin.
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5 yrs, 1 mth ago
That`s our Kats to a tee Snailor although her hair isn`t grey or white, it is in the lighter shades and she can rock any coloured lippy!
Hope she doesn`t mind me sharing her image from the Just Blogged forum – not a neutral, beige or nude shade to be seen here!
https://www.beautyheaven.com.au/forums/industry-watch/just-blogged?page=847#comments
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5 yrs, 1 mth ago
I loathe beige, especially nude lipstick. Red lips are still classic, so is winged eyeliner. I wear blue lipstick sometimes. I`ll wear almost any shade of lipstick or eyeshadow. The only colours I won`t wear are those colours that have never suited me, like gross, disgusting BEIGE!
My late Nan wore Revlon red lipstick well into her eighties. No other makeup, just the red lippy. It still suited her colouring when her hair was white. She only stopped wearing it when her eyes got too bad to apply it evenly. I remember her asking me when I was in my twenties if she should stop wearing red lipstick. She`d heard that older women should tone it down. She looked good so I told her to keep wearing it. I often think back to that conversation with Nan when this topic comes up.
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5 yrs, 1 mth ago
Petal…. im turning 55 in a couple of months and I agree with you 100%.
There is no way that I want to limit myself to neutral shades. They have their place but not daily for the rest of my life…..no way at all. You would think that brands would want to show that their latest vibrant eye shadow palette works wonderfully for those in their teens and right thought the various age groups to vibrant and lively Gran. The company that grabs that idea and runs with it im sure will get praise from many of us and they would certainly get my money. Imagine how we would talk about them here and give them loads of free advertising. -
5 yrs, 1 mth ago
Petal I’m 55 in October and I completely agree with you. Baby boomers and Gen X are often pretty healthy, fit, and there is no reason why we need to disappear visually! Admittedly there are some makeup challenges that older women have which younger women don’t and that is exactly what I’d love to see BH address, and maybe, just maybe, inviting some of their older (often long standing!) members to blog a little and/or do a regular ‘older women’ beauty haul which specifically reviews products (including eye palettes and lipsticks) designed for older beauties. Of course when I review a product I do address how they work for the older woman and I’m sure you do too, but beauty for the older woman is not all about anti-aging creams and hiding wrinkles (I personally think my laugh lines are actually something I like to work with and enhance, not hide)! It’s also about makeup and experimenting with new looks, adding in something fresh to a classic outfit, or trying on a fresh hairstyle – just like when you were younger only with a few challenges and opportunities that it would be really powerful to explore.
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5 yrs, 1 mth ago
Dear maggieball you make some good points here and as I would be put in the older category I agree and would love to help in these in as much way as I could as I find using too much makeup makes me look older and I hate the “”mutton dressed up as lamb”” look. I try to have a more classic look, and as you, I dont mind my wrinkles I think Hell I earned these!!
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5 yrs, 1 mth ago
Hi GeeJ
Thank you yes we went with the tried and true Max Factor 2000 calorie, they have been around forever and are an excellent basic product. Some of the mascaras are in the trendiest tubes but impossible for mum to manage.
I’m still on a quest to find the perfect mascara for myself if I like the way it looks and feels then I’m usually sensitive. I would hate to think what I have spent over the years on my quest for mascara perfection.
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5 yrs, 1 mth ago
I don`t know if this would work for your mum or not, but I read an article on 10daily last week about a company that`s created/will create “”ergonomically-shaped rubber add-ons for popular beauty products to allow for better grip, control and safety””. They`re about to launch 3 rubber grips for mascara wands later in the year and they ship to Australia.
Read the article if you wish:
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