Help!!

THAT IS DISGUSTING!!!! I am not even thinkin of putting Zade in day care nm, and ow....pooooor Callum and I feel for you and ur hubby, this is just not on. It makes u wonder how these places pass accreditation. I would be contacting the people that assess this daycare and get an explanation how something like this can happen when they get assessed!!! its poor and unsanitary and unsatisfactory in my opinion.

As for Callums sleeping behaviour zade has been exactly like this since I got back from Adelaide, he was unwell then and now he seems to be teething....I have to stay in the room with him til he sleeps and he has been waking every hour too. Yesterday he was down for a nap for 20min then he was up crying so I went on the couch with him and he fell asleep on my chest for 1.5 hrs.

My poor darling Elaine, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!!! I am so outraged on your behalf, Elaine, that this Daycare Centre is allowed to actually remain open. What awful conditions for the children. I would be writing a really stern letter to the Town Council about this and ask for the Daycare to be inspected. That is absolutely no way to treat its clients either. There was no way your hubby verbally or physically attacked the staff there. He was probably just wanting some answers or a proper response. If anything, I think you guys are being attacked by them. You have every right to take this further and write to your local Council to get some answers. And as for the sock. How ridiculous!! When I was teaching Grade 2 students, half the class didn't have labelled socks!! But every child got their own things without a hassle. This Daycare lacks a great deal of organisation and duty of care. I'm with you all the way on this one Elaine. You're in the right, here, lovely. You poor thing, xoxoxoxoxoox

elaine...you have every right to be upset and angry over this situation, i would be too. The part that angers me the most is Callums sore bottom. Thats just totally unacceptable and has the potential to cause him pain and discomfort, which in turn can cause the both of you sleepless nights and anxiety. As for Callums sleeping patterns of late, it may be a phase but the fact that it happened after you got back from care is a little bit of a coincidence. It seems to me like Callum has had a traumatic experience at the day care centre that may have been related to them putting him to sleep in the cot and thus that is why hes assosiating his cot at home with discomfort. Its not unusual and i have actually seen it before. Thing is, its really hard to prove anything has happened especially since callum cant tell you and the day care centre certainly wont tell you if something bad happened. Id be keeping a close eye on that place if i were you. I wouldnt hesitate in reporting them either. Callum may be home with you very soon but this may also happen to another family and their child. I remember when jack was in care i used to pull them up on everything i didnt agree with, like the fact they always lost his clothes that were clearly labelled, not giving him enough to eat and hed come home starving hungry, also one time he came home with a little cut near his eye and a bruise, my son has a bleeding disorder which was in his file. They didnt even contact me to let me know what had happened. I had to rush him to hospital later on that evening with a concussion. The centre was investigated and fined for not following protocol for accidents. Needless to say i never took him back to that centre. I share this with you because, our children need us to be their voices. If you contact authorities the centre wont know it came from you. At least you will feel better and possibly help your son and many other children in the long run. Let me know how it all goes darl.

elaine I don't blame you for being worried!! I would be very angry and upset if I was in your situation. I can understand there can be misunderstandings about payment or wrong socks (disgusting that they'd put dirty socks on your child though) but it's concerning that callum wasn't properly changed and had a nappy rash. They should of told you that he a red bottom. I'd definately report the issue!! I think the way your family has been treated is really disgusting. I was going to put my daughter into childcare however she had a really hard time adjusting. There was one time we picked her up and it seemed like she had been crying for hours which was heartbreaking for my partner and I to see. I was a little freaked out when she came home with someone elses take home nappy but can understand these type of things can happen. I was fortunate that I had the choice not to go back to work. I hope you can get this issue sorted elaine. I wish you well with this pregnancy :) As the others said that callum could have a great sleep routine and then suddenly change. My daughter is two and has good sleeping cycles and really bad ones too. Let us know how you go with the childcare incidents.

I have picked my son up from daycare a few times with a dirty nappy, gives me the craps, you would think they would change it right away. I would be ticked right off if I were you elain, we pay alot of money for these people to take CARE of our children, definately make a complaint darl, hopefully it will give the centre a real wake up call.

I agree Mel, definitely make a complaint Elaine! We're all with you, darl!

that's very odd that they would want to speak to you without having your partner around elaine!! I agree that your partner should make a complaint with all the points you've listed. The nappy changing standards and all the other points you've mentioned make me so angry for you and your family.

elaine , i have wanted to reply to this since you first posted .. my sister is chairperson of her daughters kindy , and im gonna ask her what would happen if this all took place there and the parents were as concerned as you .. might be interesting to hear what she has to say . he kindy is doing really well since she took over . but back onto your problem , i would being asking questions , ppl who look after your children need to be open and transparent .. you shouldnt have these doubts in your mind about the care you son is getting . they need to reasure you and explaine why callums bottem isnt clean , what he has or hasnt eaten ..etc as for the sleep issue , you know your son , if he needs two naps .. he needs two naps ! it does sound like there not putting him down cause its too much hassel for them . i woulndt trust them to do controlled crying .. because your not there .. and who knows how long he will cry .. he may even start hate going to bed at all .. if he thinks his being left in there all alone .. the way they have handled everything seem so odd .. my son isnt in daycare so i dunno whats right and wrong .. but it sure is weird that they dont wanna speak infront of your husband .

personaly id be reporting it , and who knows ... there could be other mums thinking the same about the service there getting too . ill post back when i get somemore time .

xxxx

Hi elaine, about the sleep issue when Jarvyn first started daycare at 15 months he started having just one sleep a day. At first he was unsettled and overtired and yhen he got into the routine. Now he will sleep at about 11am for up to 3 hours some days and then he's ready to go to bed by 6pm at night, no later or else he gets over tired. As long as you get him to bed early enough at night once a day should be ok for him now at his age, but then you have to try to stick to that at home as well darl. Good luck with whatever you decide :) As for the dirty bum, that is horrific, damn lazy in my opinion and it must be addressed darl.

Poor little guy that is a long day, my kids are horrible if they are not in bed by 6pm. It's going to be tough elaine not really sure what to do, he is having such a long day and he will just be that over tired, it will be hard to get a routine and just stick with it. I guess it won't be until you stop work before bubs is born that you will be able to get into a proper routine, which will be needed before a new one comes into the picture. I'm here if need any advice what so ever darl, good luck hon :)

You might have to see if you can get him in to another place as soon as you can, I know what the waiting lists are like down there but wonder if you explained your situation someone will take him in.

Oh my poor Elaine, and definitely poor Callum. This is just getting worse. What a place. Wouldn't it be good if your mum lived here so that she could take him a couple of days a week. Sorry, I know that can't happen. I just find the staff there to be truly uncaring, unorganised and darn right rude and lazy. Especially the Nursery "Leader". Does she actually have kids of her own?? I mean, I'm not a mother, but this treatment towrds you and to Callum is really unprofessional and uncalled for. Are other parents having troubl there too?? If so, you might be able to get together and organise a group meeting with the new Director.

Oh Elaine, I'm so sorry that I wrote about your mum! I wish she was here for you! Sorry! xoxo

I certainly don't take offense to wanting to work while you're pregnant. I mean, it's extra money for food on the table, bills, the house, etc. I totally get that. And it also gives you some money as well. Your own income.

I agree with your partner and see what happens next week after your scan.

In the meantime, I would start a diary of all the things that have happened in regards to Callum and yourselves at the Daycare. I did this a couple of years ago at work, when a colleague was bullying me. I kept a record of events for about 9 -10 months which was then given to the proper authorities, and that person left my workplace.

Love you heaps and heaps Elaine! Hang in there darlin'! xoxoxoxo

The diary is a really good idea GB. Good luck with whatever you decide elain, I understand you on the work front it is so expensive raising one child and will be twice as much when you have another, it is going to be tough living off the one income with no support from the government so I understand why you want to stay at work for as long as you can. Mabey you should start putting you name down at a few other centre new and hopefully something might turn up before the new bub arrives, sometimes they have cancellations. It sure sux that they can't get him in anywhere else.

elaine sorry i've not replied sooner, i've not been online much of late.

in regards to his daycare, it's hard because they know how hard it is to get places, i'd be putting his name down on every one you can though. regarding his sleep, how old is he now?

elaine it probably wouldn't hurt to start getting him towards 1 sleep a day. obviously if he is going down easily at night and sleeping through it's not worth changing yet but if or when he's not it's worth changing.

My bub is now 20months and has been on 1 sleep for about 3 months - he occasionally goes through a few days where he wants 2 and that's fine but if he has 2 on a normal day he won't go to bed until after 8 and wakes really early.
Now he gets up at about 6.30 - 7am and is back to bed at 11.30am up at 1 or 1.30 usually and then back in bed at 7pm. it's a really good routine that works well for us. if i put him down at 11 am he only sleeps for 1 hour so i have to drag that extra 30mins out of him to get a really good nap.

I think the main difference is though that i don't put him in daycare so routine is always easier to stick to at home than hoping someone else will do it for you. Have you looked at home day care options?

My son just turned 2 year old has almost the same routine Princess except he goes to bed around 6pm and wakes up at about 5.30am. My daughter who is nearly 1 has already followed suit, I know she is a bit young but you can't stop her wanting to do just what her brother does, oh it is just so easy with her :D Home daycare is an excellent idea.