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Jul 23, 2014
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Chicklet
984 posts

Topic: Anything but beauty / Dangers of having a root canal

Essentially your choices are to have a root canal or have the tooth pulled out and replaced with a crown. You can’t just leave it there as it is. It’s up to you and your dentist to decide what is right for you. I really think those articles in the links are just scaremongering – two isolated articles essentially based on the findings of 1 dentist in the 1920s and followed up by a study by 1 dentist more recently. Weigh this up with all the overwhelming evidence for it being an appropriate course of action. At the end of the day you’re better off heeding your dentists advice.

Jul 23, 2014
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Pink Hornet
289 posts

Topic: Skincare / Skincare routine!

This is in reply to the health issues. Although I love jojoba and am never without it, I use it as a makeup remover amongst other things. Anyway, this is not about that. In a skincare post this is about makeup because when you have been sick sometimes camouflage is your only option.
Around operation 11 or 12, 5 or 6 for that year, when I was very underweight. My mum took me in to the Mac counter and said to the lovely young man “Can you help my daughter look healthy? Heroin chic is so last year!” he most certainly could help and mum bought it all for me.
Looking better helped. :-)

Jul 23, 2014
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Erin101
54 posts

Topic: Talkback / WANTED: 10 MEMBERS FOR A NEW DISCOVERY BAG

Sorry to hear you had a reaction to the scrub Trish_D :(

How is everyone finding the MOMMA products? I love them all…I’m definitely buying the bronzer when I’ve finished the sample. Also they have some great other cosmetics on their website too- I’m interested in their liquid eyeliner also.

I’ve been using the mineral foundation everyday and it has such great coverage! Today I was experimenting and I used some of it to set a liquid foundation (I love finding multiple uses for products sometimes :p), and it lasted so well! I’ve had barely any oiliness throughout the day. I am such a fan of this range being Vegan and free of harsh chemicals!

Jul 23, 2014
Nature-girl
Nature_Girl
98 posts

Topic: Anything but beauty / Dangers of having a root canal

You have my sympathy – I hate dentists and dread my visits.

For what it’s worth I understand that root canal treatment on front teeth is simpler for the dentist to do, as front teeth tend to have one root. Your molars have 3 or more, most of the horror stories relate to the molars\backteeth.

What makes things worse these days is the internet with all the bad stories, scaremongering. As much as I hate dentists they should know what they are doing and provide the best advice and options.

Here’s hoping you have dental cover!

Jul 23, 2014
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*Cathy*
649 posts

Topic: Anything but beauty / Dangers of having a root canal

I will try and restrain myself but honestly, the second article is just pure bullshit. I can’t even with this paragraph, it’s just so completely unfeasible.
“One study from Dr. Price showed that a root-canaled tooth, when taken out from the human patient and placed in an animal, actually removed diseases like rheumatoid arthritis or heart disease from its host and followed the tooth into the animal. In other words, the human was cured and the animal with the root-canaled tooth developed the disease.”

Root canals are safe and effective, especially in anterior teeth which generally only have a single root. Molars are trickier as the roots are longer and access can be harder. Generally if a general dentist feels they are unable to get proper access they will send you to an endodontist who can use an operating microscope to complete the job.

If you were to get an implant you would have to have the tooth removed and wait for the bone to regenerate before final crown. That’s at least an 8 week wait during which time you would either need to wear a single tooth denture or have a gap.

If you don’t have the root canal the infection will remain in place and eventually it will all come to a head and extraction won’t be optional.

Jul 23, 2014
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Claire88
1470 posts

Topic: Talkback / BH Trial Team

Everyone here has such beautiful nails! Mine are completely trashed thanks to a busy couple of months which is why I’m thrilled to have this hard wearing polish to try, so I can salvage what’s left! I got “Dig Fig”, a brownish red shade, it’s perfect for winter and matches all my black outfits :P

Your nails looks pretty good to me catn2 :)

Gorgeous colour, I love a deep shade of red!

Jul 23, 2014
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Beautynutter
106 posts

Topic: Make-up / The girl who’s going a year without make-up

Ok…now it has just gone back up but the comments are all gone…weird

Jul 23, 2014
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Claire88
1470 posts

Topic: Talkback / BH Trial Team

I am not on the BH trial, but this is my day 6 using the SH Miracle gel polish. There is a bit of tip wear showing, but my mani is still quite glossy. I am itching to change the colour, 6 days wearing the same polish is getting a bit boring for me, but I also want to see how much longer it will last for, plus see how difficult it is to remove.

Jul 23, 2014
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Beautynutter
106 posts

Topic: Make-up / The girl who’s going a year without make-up

This article was up on BH this arvo, it had about 10 comments on it already, but it has just been removed and the points for my comment deducted??? Not sure what is up with that…

Jul 23, 2014
Nature-girl
Nature_Girl
98 posts

Topic: Skincare / Skincare routine!

Growing old – it’s not really misleading as its still effectively Jojoba Oil. I am just a bit of stickler for what I use on my skin. After researching I discovered the best and most effective for the skin is the 1st Press or Virgin, so that what I look for. Then again in fairness most people probably just look for Jojoba Oil. So perhaps they are catering for the 99% and not the 1%.

Looking at the earlier thread posts see you are in Adelaide, I’m in Victoria and tend to get my aromatherapy stuff from Essence of Wellbeing, but if you are just looking to buy the Jojoba Oil then the postage may not make it worthwhile.

You should be able to get some in Adelaide, now you know what to look for – like anything else it’s just a matter of checking the label and asking questions if in doubt.

Jul 23, 2014
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Cocoabutter
31 posts

Topic: Talkback / I had a double eyelid surgery last month, but my bf doesn't notice any difference!!

Dont worry what your boyfriend thinks or in your case doesnt think, what matters is how you feel about the new look, if you are happy with it then it is worth every cent. I could change my hair colour and my hubby wont notice ha ha so dont worry, i think its a bloke thing.

Definitely a guy thing. The skin on my eyes becomes puffy easily (I have sensitive skin). When it is puffy, the hood on my eye looks different, which makes one of my eyes smaller than the other. I am very self conscious about it but my husband doesn’t even notice the difference :(

Jul 23, 2014
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Cocoabutter
31 posts

Topic: Make-up / Brow pencil recommendation

Hi beauties,

I noticed that my brow is getting sparse and I want to do something about my brow.

I don’t normally wear make up, and I have natural Asian black hair.

I have a Maybelline “soft black” brow pencil (not a real pencil that needs a sharpener), but I found sometimes my brow is a bit too dark/prominent, especially I don’t put foundation on.

Should I get a grey colour brow pencil? Can you please recommend something that makes brow colouring easier?

Thank you very much.

Jul 23, 2014
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Growing old
17 posts

Topic: Skincare / Favourite Pigmentation/ dark spot serum

I’m booked in to get some laser done on my brown spots this Friday. Will try and remember to update you guys and let you know how I get on. I have a mixture of “seborrheic keratoses” and brown pigmentation spots. The SKs are going to be removed with a procedure called Hyfrecation and the others will be treated with laser. Crossing my fingers that I will only need one treatment!

Goodluck for ur appointment! Please try and let us know how you go. I’m very interested to know what results you get. I’ve got a few spots I’ve got down to a lighter colour from a few diff products but they tend to take them down a shade or two then stop. I should be thankful…they are a lot less noticeable than they were!
Ontop of the pesky brown spots I have i started noticing a new very attractive pigmentation issue…a grey coloured moustache!!!! Anyone know what causes GREY colour pigmentation?? I’ve searched for answers and the only thing I could find talking specifically on GREY pigmentation said it’s caused from issues in your gut/digestive issues?? Thanks to any help and Goodluck for ur appt!!

Jul 23, 2014
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IndieAna
16746 posts

Topic: Industry watch / Just Blogged

Femme Fatale “Post Apocalyptic” collection
http://indieanna1.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/femme-fatale-post-apocalyptic-collection.html

Jul 23, 2014
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Lovely18
4 posts

Topic: Talkback / I had a double eyelid surgery last month, but my bf doesn't notice any difference!!

Is him too careless and indifferent or every men are like this?! My dad will never notice when I change my hair!~

How about u guys?

are you looking for a cheaper yet branded beauty products? =)

http://www.amazon.com/s/?_encoding=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&field-keywords=&linkCode=ur2&tag=melchizedek0bb-20&url=search-alias%3Dbeauty&linkId=WRIHJZMUOLKHN4BV">Beauty<img

Jul 23, 2014
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MoniqueKerstin
686 posts

Topic: Anything but beauty / Dangers of having a root canal

Hey everybody, Im in a bit of a pickle at the moment. I went to the dentist this morning and found out that one of my front teeth requires a root canal (yay me). And my step dad let me know that theres lots of long term dangers related to having a root canal.

Im a bit overwhelmed by it all, and I don’t really want to have a front tooth pulled out or a 6 grand titanium filling.. So I was wondering if anyone on here had any knowledge, experience or advice about it at all. Heres some the links about the dangers Ive been looking at this afternoon :)

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/02/18/dangers-of-root-canaled-teeth.aspx

http://www.sott.net/article/253282-The-hidden-dangers-of-root-canals-you-dont-know-about

Jul 23, 2014
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Candyfairy
557 posts

Topic: Industry watch / Just Blogged

My daughter turns 3 today! :)
http://candyfairyblogs.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/imbi-turns-3.html

Also just a reminder for those who might have missed it…..
Make sure you enter my giveaway!! It’s a fairly big prize! :)
http://candyfairyblogs.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/giveaway.html

Jul 23, 2014
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Ladyluck13
8 posts

Topic: Make-up / Tarte cosmetics?

I just checked the Blonde Room website. It’s not so user-friendly. And the fishpoind site was selling only a few things at ridiculous prices. Sephora is coming to Australia soon. I cannot wait to get to play with the Tarte stuff in person!

Jul 23, 2014
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Growing old
17 posts

Topic: Skincare / Skincare routine!

THanks for the heads up :)
Your post prompted me to email springfields and ask them about their jojoba oil and this was their response for anyone interested.

Springfields jojoba oil is 100% golden jojoba oil derived from Australian
grown jojoba seed.
No pesticides are used in the farming process. No heat, additives nor
solvents are used in the extraction process. The seed is crushed using the
cold-press method. It is not a blend of oils but the jojoba seed used in
each batch will come from different farms. (90% of Australian jojoba farmers
are linked with our processors).

Sounds promising but based on the wording you have posted – it could potentially still be blend of first\second pressings. As my interpreation is that all they are saying is that its 100% jojoba oil extracted by cold press method, which is technically still true if it is a blend of first & second pressings.

Also most retailers\producers tend to specify clearly if its unrefined, 1st press, or Virgin on the labelling unless they have something to hide! – has anybody seen what is on the label ? – Maybe I’m just picking points :)

Thankyou nature girl for your info!!! It’s truly annoying and misleading of these companies to word things in certain ways that cover themselves but leave the consumer thinking they are buying what they truly intended however aren’t!
I’ve searched the site of the jojoba company and I can’t seem to find any statement describing it as ‘Virgin’ or ‘first pressed’ and like you said (think it was you nature girl, apologies if it wasn’t) they would be expressing that if it was! And also your comment about comparing apples with apples, so true! I really hope I find that the one I have is virgin. Tho after this reading these posts and seeing the massive price difference I will definately be buying a cheaper alternative while ensuring it is what it’s supposed to be. Really really appreciate ur time and advice! I have written notes down but now unsure as I can’t find it atm but did you actually recommend an Australian Virgin 100% jojoba oil?? A big sorry if you have…I learnt earlier that if you cancel ur response it takes you back to the beginning of the forum….lol I’ve done it a couple of times now and I’m new to these forums and lack techno skills ;)

Jul 23, 2014
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Beautynutter
106 posts

Topic: Make-up / L'Oreal Colour Riche Trial Team

Yay, I am on this trial! Can’t wait to try it. I wonder what colour or colours we will get..

Jul 23, 2014
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Growing old
17 posts

Topic: Skincare / Skincare routine!

Just had a look at the Essence of Wellbeing Jojoba Oil it is an Australian “Virgin” Jojoba Oil 100ml for $19.00.

Just bear in mind there are lots of different grades of Jojoba Oil. So need to ensure you are comparing apples with apples. Nature Girl did a good post on Jojoba Oil\Carrier Oils on another thread which said "I would personally go for an “Unrefined” carrier oil which can often be referred to as “100% first-pressed” or “Virgin”.

I would stay clear of :
- “refined” which is generally solvent extracted from the seeds (ie, chemically extracted)
- “second press” (which is from a second pressing of the same seeds), because it’s often of much lower quality and tends to have additives assist colouring and aroma to make it more retail friendly
- “blended” which generally contains both unrefined and second-press refined stuff

Can’t tell from looking at the springfields one which grade it is, but looks like the Essence of Wellbing one is Australian and the top grade.

Hopefully that will help you beauties when you are out shopping for Jojoba Oil – All the credit goes to Nature Girl

Thanks Jane for pointing this out!! I hadn’t even thought of that and must say I’m normally switched on to these sorts of marketing ploys! The one I’m currently using is the jojoba company’s one and I looked on their website and they make absolutely no reference to it being ‘virgin’ or the other terms used to show it’s the level we are after! I was shocked and will email them soon and see what their response is as im sure if it is ‘Virgin’ oil they would be proudly describing it as such but haven’t seen any of those descriptions on their site and their prices are heftier than what others are paying and saying! I’ve been paying $29.95 for only 85mls! Huge difference so many thanks for the info and links :)

Jul 23, 2014
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Growing old
17 posts

Topic: Skincare / Skincare routine!

Growing old & Oonga
Your conversation is too long to ‘Post a reply’ to directly. Let me intrude with a little info of my own.
I’ve just bought some jojoba oil (earlier today) & haven’t tried it out yet. I paid $17.50 for a 100mL amber glass bottle, Springfield brand Australian grown golden jojoba oil. There was discussion in another thread about jojoba oil, so I thought I’d have to give it a go. I’ve got getprice.com.au on my favourites bar, typed ‘jojoba oil’ into their search bar, then sorted results from lowest price to highest & got details. I didn’t want to pay postage so I found somewhere in Sydney & popped in (Super Discount Supplements on Burwood Rd, Burwood NSW if anyone’s curious). I don’t know what you’re paying, but I reckon I did good. Check for Adelaide & Melbourne locals or get it online. Like I said, I haven’t tried it yet.
As for makeup removal: I’ve been using generic baby oil on a cotton wool ball for years just for eye makeup & I always wear waterproof mascara. It gets off the Maybelline 24hr Colour Tattoo cream eye shadows without rubbing too! But I cleanse with a rough face washer afterwards. I use Best & Less washers in the ugly old lady floral designs because they’re a jacquard (pattern is part-raised) & they provide a good ‘bumpy’ scrubbing texture. I’ll use the jojoba oil as a post cleanse treatment, & as Nature_Girl said in a different thread, you can mix it into a paste with baking soda. I won’t waste it on the eye make up removal since baby oil does the job so well. You can always trust me to find the cheapest solution to any problem.

Thanks misfortunat8 for the info!!! After reading ur post then follow on ones from others I’m certainly going to have a look into the jojoba oil I’m currently using! It’s been sometime since I’ve used baby oil but I presume it’s mineral oil based? Which I avoid BUT I suppose if it’s used like a pre- cleanse/eye makeup remover it wouldn’t matter as the second cleanse would remove any residual baby oil?? Have I got that correct? Again thanks for the suggestion of jojoba oil, I like saving money! :D

Jul 23, 2014
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sarzej
999 posts

Topic: Industry watch / Just Blogged

This weeks WOMF is live:
http://www.morethanadored.com/2014/07/womf-15.html

Also for those who don’t follow me on social media I’m dropping back to Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat, Sun posting days whilst I work on content for my new site! :)

Jul 23, 2014
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Growing old
17 posts

Topic: Skincare / Skincare routine!

hahaha gosh we just slather our faces don’t we!!

Your medical issues sound quite severe! A collapsed lung!!!eeekkkk
I hope you are well on the road to recovery! I am sure that all would have taken a huge toll on your immune system too, fighting to keep things going! Not to mention the fight your body went through while it was surviving on one lung :(

No i can’t see where you are from, so going to Essence of Wellbeing will be quite a hike LOL
I am in melbourne and in the south east so for me it wasn’t too far at all :)
But from what i have read here on the oil diffuser thread, they do despatch items very quickly!
I think your glass container for the jojoba sounds just lovely!

Oh Oonga yes we do slather our faces…and I love it :) I wish there was the info that is available now when we were ‘youthful’ ! I know for me that beauty info came once a month via the ‘Dolly’ magazine LOL then Cleo and Cosmo as I got a little older and was finally allowed to read them ;) now unlike the ‘olden’ days access to info about beauty is so easy that I can imagine my skin would be a heap better now if we had more than ‘Dolly’ to rely on lol ;)
Oh yes my Heath has certainly been a harrowing experience I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. I knew I was unwell for a long time but as I had been a smoker lowering my head in shame my dr kept insisting all my symptoms were smoking related (ironically and fortunately I say fortunately as smoking related lung cancers don’t have very high survival rates the tumour was completely unrelated to smoking tho definitely didn’t help with breathing issues) and my dr kept dismissing it until I basically cracked it and demanded a specific scan as I had quit but was so short of breath still I knew something wasn’t quite right- normal X-ray didn’t show anything at all. The surgery itself was huge and the recovery was even bigger. I’ve pretty well adjusted to having only one lung, life is very diff to what it was. What were easy tasks now have to be planned a bit more strategically and I don’t get out much but I’m still here and there are many many people a lot worse off than I am so I definitely don’t complain :) Yes it sure hit my immune system and while I had had several surgeries this one definitely had the biggest impact upon my body and my skin. It took a good two years of really nurturing my skin and immune system to get back to my pre op skin. But time I had!! As i had been so ill for so long I had stopped working prior to the surgery so while I had plenty of time I didn’t have any money to splurge on products :( but as I wasn’t allowed flowers in the hospital and I was having a particularly bad day after coming home and was quite sooky one day as I spoke to my sister about my horrible skin that she turned up with a gift pack of gentle lotions and potions to try and cheer me up :) it all went from there!! While I had always looked after my skin (except for no sunscreen) I found myself unable to do almost anything except indulge my face and I started reading blogs anything beauty related and became somewhat obsessed lol! It sucked reading about amazing products and not having any disposable income to indulge in them! I had a very long wishlist (still do!) and at one point tried to make many things that came out of my pantry! I wouldn’t say they were the best things I’ve used but at the time they helped me and probably psychologically helped boost me. Nowadays I still can’t work (which sucks) and I have to watch the purse strings. Thank goodness for the WWW! Now when I need a product or hear of the latest skin ‘miracle’ I google and read read read and read some more!! I’m terrible at making decisions so being able to read reviews is very helpful to me. I can’t afford ( many people can relate to this!) to say pay for a tub of something to find it’s crap and just replace it. Even if it’s quite cheap I still research reviews and I generally don’t buy unless I can try it but I recently did buy online for the very first time (omg I was so excited LOL!) going by reviews from other beauty’s and I wasn’t disappointed! To me it was a huge order, spending $60 on a night cream and $60 on an eye cream I had never tried was huge!! When I see some reviews of creams I get so excited then I check the price and after I pick myself back of the floor I then imagine what it must be like to be able to spend several hundred on one little tube of cream…Oonga I have a very vivid imagination LOL! It must be nice! I’m not whinging, power to you if you can and like the princess of enabling said ( I think it was ms danger lol?!?) if you work hard you deserve a treat..I totally agree just sucks I can’t work hard and get treats ;) oh dear I’ve raved and raved on and have I even made the point I was going to make…probably not haha!! O’well sorry for my long winded post…I’m sure I will get the hang of these forums and the proper forum etiquette soon!! I think it was me who talks too much ;) I just want to say thanks for ur replys and look forward to updates on ur roller experience/s!! Xx

SO SORRY FOR THE LENGTH!!! Can someone please tell me ( I’m not very techno ) how I crossed things out lol…I had thought I put a- thingy before and after a statement and it’s come up like I’ve drawn a line through what I’ve said ? It’s pretty cool but have no idea how I did it -trying to do it again – and another tip please anyone…how do I write a comment without ‘replying’ like Jane did as like she said by pushing reply they get soooo long ??? Thanks beauty’s xxx

Jul 23, 2014
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Growing old
17 posts

Topic: Skincare / Skincare routine!

hahaha gosh we just slather our faces don’t we!!

Your medical issues sound quite severe! A collapsed lung!!!eeekkkk
I hope you are well on the road to recovery! I am sure that all would have taken a huge toll on your immune system too, fighting to keep things going! Not to mention the fight your body went through while it was surviving on one lung :(

No i can’t see where you are from, so going to Essence of Wellbeing will be quite a hike LOL
I am in melbourne and in the south east so for me it wasn’t too far at all :)
But from what i have read here on the oil diffuser thread, they do despatch items very quickly!
I think your glass container for the jojoba sounds just lovely!

Oh Oonga yes we do slather our faces…and I love it :) I wish there was the info that is available now when we were ‘youthful’ ! I know for me that beauty info came once a month via the ‘Dolly’ magazine LOL then Cleo and Cosmo as I got a little older and was finally allowed to read them ;) now unlike the ‘olden’ days access to info about beauty is so easy that I can imagine my skin would be a heap better now if we had more than ‘Dolly’ to rely on lol ;)
Oh yes my Heath has certainly been a harrowing experience I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. I knew I was unwell for a long time but as I had been a smoker lowering my head in shame my dr kept insisting all my symptoms were smoking related (ironically and fortunately I say fortunately as smoking related lung cancers don’t have very high survival rates the tumour was completely unrelated to smoking tho definitely didn’t help with breathing issues) and my dr kept dismissing it until I basically cracked it and demanded a specific scan as I had quit but was so short of breath still I knew something wasn’t quite right- normal X-ray didn’t show anything at all. The surgery itself was huge and the recovery was even bigger. I’ve pretty well adjusted to having only one lung, life is very diff to what it was. What were easy tasks now have to be planned a bit more strategically and I don’t get out much but I’m still here and there are many many people a lot worse off than I am so I definitely don’t complain :) Yes it sure hit my immune system and while I had had several surgeries this one definitely had the biggest impact upon my body and my skin. It took a good two years of really nurturing my skin and immune system to get back to my pre op skin. But time I had!! As i had been so ill for so long I had stopped working prior to the surgery so while I had plenty of time I didn’t have any money to splurge on products :( but as I wasn’t allowed flowers in the hospital and I was having a particularly bad day after coming home and was quite sooky one day as I spoke to my sister about my horrible skin that she turned up with a gift pack of gentle lotions and potions to try and cheer me up :) it all went from there!! While I had always looked after my skin (except for no sunscreen) I found myself unable to do almost anything except indulge my face and I started reading blogs anything beauty related and became somewhat obsessed lol! It sucked reading about amazing products and not having any disposable income to indulge in them! I had a very long wishlist (still do!) and at one point tried to make many things that came out of my pantry! I wouldn’t say they were the best things I’ve used but at the time they helped me and probably psychologically helped boost me. Nowadays I still can’t work (which sucks) and I have to watch the purse strings. Thank goodness for the WWW! Now when I need a product or hear of the latest skin ‘miracle’ I google and read read read and read some more!! I’m terrible at making decisions so being able to read reviews is very helpful to me. I can’t afford ( many people can relate to this!) to say pay for a tub of something to find it’s crap and just replace it. Even if it’s quite cheap I still research reviews and I generally don’t buy unless I can try it but I recently did buy online for the very first time (omg I was so excited LOL!) going by reviews from other beauty’s and I wasn’t disappointed! To me it was a huge order, spending $60 on a night cream and $60 on an eye cream I had never tried was huge!! When I see some reviews of creams I get so excited then I check the price and after I pick myself back of the floor I then imagine what it must be like to be able to spend several hundred on one little tube of cream…Oonga I have a very vivid imagination LOL! It must be nice! I’m not whinging, power to you if you can and like the princess of enabling said ( I think it was ms danger lol?!?) if you work hard you deserve a treat..I totally agree just sucks I can’t work hard and get treats ;) oh dear I’ve raved and raved on and have I even made the point I was going to make…probably not haha!! O’well sorry for my long winded post…I’m sure I will get the hang of these forums and the proper forum etiquette soon!! I think it was me who talks too much ;) I just want to say thanks for ur replys and look forward to updates on ur roller experience/s!! Xx