DOes Dove shampoos have silicon in them? RSS

Aug 5, 2009 6:49pm
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Michy and br...

Hi there,
I heard that silicon is bad for your hair and many supermarket brands contain it. I have just recently started using Dove’s therapy shampoo for intensive damage(the navy one). Does anyone know if that contains silicon? Because I heard that silicon thins your hair over a long period of time

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Aug 6, 2009 2:53am
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melmeko

Member since 2007

Yes it sure does, the cheaper kind of silicon is used in most brands like this, as mentioned in a few threads already it has disadvantages mainly for product buildup and makes colouring difficult, never heard about it thinning your hair though, more so just makes it flat and limp, it might be ok as long as you use a clarifying shampoo to help remove the buildup.

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Aug 6, 2009 11:28am
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annibaby

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Silicone is in many haircare products. I use a clarifying shampoo once a week to remove product build up.

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Aug 7, 2009 9:35am
Olivia

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Response from Ruth Muller, Research and Development, Dove

Dove does contain silicones as do salon products and most good shampoos and conditioners. Silicones are absolutely safe for your hair and your body, made from the same base element as sand and glass. Silicones add shine to hair, lubricate and protect it and help to improve manageability. In the past there has been some negative associations with silicones because one brand used big blobs of silicone droplets in their emulsions, which some say resulted in hair being weighed down or cause trouble with colouring. But Hair Care silicone technology has come a long way. Silicones are what differentiate great products from good products, most companies tend to use different silicone emulsions, because there are so many different types If you develop a good one, the benefits are so advanced that you want to patent it.

Dove uses many patented silicones. Dove Research and Development in UK focuses on delivering a light natural feel (some brands aim for a coated feel) whilst delivering the maximum level of conditioning and damage repair. Dove uses thick moisturising silicones, which have VERY tiny droplets (up to 380X smaller than leading competitors), so they can be distributed evenly over the hair shaft to give a light feel. We also have targeted silicones which seek out and repair damage specifically, only attaching to damaged sites, so hair is not overload with silicone.

Silicones in shampoo are very important, because they protect your hair when it is wet, and most susceptible to damage. If you use a cheap shampoo and a good conditioner, your hair will look and feel nice after the wash, but gradually over time it may become more and more damaged because hair is not protected when it is wet from rubbing and pulling forces which can cause damage. Some brands economize on their shampoos and put more moisturisers into their conditioner, which is a way of making more money, but long-term results for users will suffer.

Look for products with “Dimethiconol” and “Amodimethicone” in the ingredient list.

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Aug 7, 2009 12:29pm
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melmeko

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mmmm interesting.

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Aug 7, 2009 1:31pm
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FiFi73

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Oh Gosh Melmeko, when I read your post above, I was laughing so hard!! My Hubby says that (mmm interesting) when I’m talking about beauty products, etc…. He has that eyes glazed over look! So your post just reminded me of that…..Anyway, I’ll stop waffling on now…..

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Aug 7, 2009 10:19pm
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melmeko

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Hahahahaha fifi glad I could give you a laugh, lol, I couldn’t think of anything else to say at the time when I read that, I was a bit taken back so I just though mmmmm.

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Aug 7, 2009 10:56pm
Mac

Trikk3

hmmmmm, iv’e used dove and ah personally, whatever silicone’s they have, i couldn’t really care less, it still left my hair crappy and worked like supermarket hair products do…hence the reason i buy only professional products….oh wait…i lied, i use my man’s supermarket shampoo on my body when i run out of body wash….and even then…i only do it if i’m desperate….

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Aug 8, 2009 12:41pm
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melmeko

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Trikk I would have to agree with you there darl, hense my comment above mmmmm, lol.

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Aug 8, 2009 9:08pm
Mac

Trikk3

LOL Mel, yeah…i kinda figured you were thinking along those lines. I saw what that “I work for Dove and it’s just the greatest thing” lady had said, and i was like, oh my life…what a croc of you know what, say what you want…we’ve all tried it and thrown it out again….

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Aug 9, 2009 8:41am
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melmeko

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LOL I think there would be something wrong if the Dove rep gave a response like “Yes we use cheap silicon in our s & c like all the supermarket brands” of course she is going to back the product she works for. I would rather hear a declaration from a not so bias souce like a hairdresser rather than a rep from the brand in question.

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Aug 9, 2009 9:10am
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pink shoes

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Ah, now I understand why my hair is so crap after using Dove shampoo. The silicone is too heavy on my hair and just makes it look and feel like greasy lifeless blah that clings to my head. May as well be wearing a helmet.

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Aug 9, 2009 11:49am
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melmeko

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LOL Pink Shoes the helmet effect isn’t a good look, lol.

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Aug 9, 2009 11:54am
Beautiful_girl

Hely

Oh, wow. Silicone is everywhere. You don’t suppose there are any S & C’s that specifically market themselves as not having silicone????

He he pink shoes. helmet head. Didn’t you hear that’s the new look for Spring??? lol.

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Aug 9, 2009 12:18pm
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KaynJay

What about Moogoo?

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Aug 9, 2009 12:26pm
Beautiful_girl

Hely

Moogoo conditioner does sound like it doesn’t have any nasties at all, including silicone (although I suppose it’s not really a nasty).

This one might be for you Mel, does Moogoo S & C help hair have volume???

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Aug 9, 2009 3:38pm
Mac

Trikk3

I agree, i don’t think that was the best response to have put up simply beacause yes, it is a VERY biased opinion. i wonder if that woman even uses dove or just speaks for the stuff. A survey response from hairdressers would have been better…then again, how many hairdresser would use dove long enough to review it

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Aug 9, 2009 3:57pm
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Hely

What do you mean by ‘it was biased trickk?’

I kinda knew that there were a few brands who did have silicone in their products (especially pantene) but I wasn’t aware that it was the majority of companies as well. I suppose it does make sense to use silicone technology. Just guess it’s up to us to suss out the products that wieigh our hair.

But if most companies are using the technology then shouldn’t we all be using clarifying products at least once a month to get rid of the build up????

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Aug 9, 2009 9:00pm
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melmeko

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It was biast Hely because it was a Dove rep promoting the product that she sells, obviously she is going to say it is good, lol.
As Michelle mentioned even the expensive salon brands use silicon but it is the quality of it that is the factor, and supermarket brands tend to use cheap ingredients in their products to sell them so cheap.
Moo Goo is no good for volume Hely, they are not a haircare line really the focus is more on keeping you scalp healthy. It does leave my hair soft and shiny so it is great to alternate with a different brand that targets different concerns like volume :)

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Aug 9, 2009 9:08pm
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KaynJay

Thanks for the info mel, i don’t usually style my hair and i love how moogoo doesn’t irritate my scalp and leaves my hair smooth, love it. =]

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Aug 10, 2009 1:48pm
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Elmo

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Most formulations do contain silicones in there – look for any words ending with ‘cone’ or similar (ie like the dove response about look for dimethiconol).

Personally I’ve had my hair colour ruined once before due to use of supermarket brands, and I’m not prepared to risk it again! Besides which, my hair is in much better condition as a result of salon brands, so I’m sticking with them! I use less of them anyway, so it doesn’t actually end up costing me that much more.

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Aug 10, 2009 2:01pm
Jerry

Cassiebt

I tried dove and hated it, my hair is very thick and wavy, i can normally load product on it and it will look fine but i used Dove for 4 days while staying with my parents (family funeral, i left in a hurry and didn’t pack some of my bathroom stuff) and my hair went straight, limp and just gross, and that was washing it every day because by the end of the day it was greasy and unco-operative.

I am sticking to the salon products i normally use

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Aug 10, 2009 2:32pm
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Hely

That’s really interesting Pepsi. I’ve never tried their products so I can’t commnt on them.

I only put semi-permanent colours through my hair and they stay in for ages so I guess the products I’m using aren’t full of crappy types of silcione. It wasnt something I even gave a thought to about my own products until this thread.

And totally true Elmo, with expensive products you only need the tiniest amount.

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Aug 10, 2009 3:48pm
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Jo-ness

I agree with Elmo, you dont need to use as much when you use salon brands… kind of makes up for the price difference (almost).

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Aug 10, 2009 8:10pm
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melmeko

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LOL I thought they posted something new from Dove but it is the same post as above, hehe.
A agree my hair has never been in as good as conditon as it is since I have totally scraped supermarket brands from my haircare regime, and I have found I am purchasing products seldomly and have saved heaps when I think of all the money I wasted on buing supermarket brands every fortinght.

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